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Spandex Sidney 2:09 Sat May 13
This is why Allardyce and his ilk should not be allowed to manage

Just seen his interview on Football Focus and when asked how did Palace's upcoming game against Hull compare to their FA Cup Final last season replied:

'This one is much, much bigger and more important'

A fucking FA Cup Final, I fucking hate managers that throw important cup games. He's not the only one by a mile, why do Premier League managers feel this is okay?

Mex Martillo 7:11 Sun May 14
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Spandex Sidney 10:57 Sun May 14
I'd also love to see a champions league place for winning the FA cup + a shit load of money which tha FA can easily afford + secured next year (or promotion to premier), that would change sad cunts like BFS

Northern Sold 1:19 Sun May 14
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Hate the cunt.... remember us all going up to Sheff Weds in the cup and him sticking out a shit team ... which ended us being beaten... that was on top of him promoting the FA cup all week on talk Sport.... disgusting cunt of a man

Any Old Iron 12:45 Sun May 14
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It's one of the many reasons I've always detested Allardyce. He's never given a toss about winning any cups as we know to our cost. For him it's all about the money, and nothing else.
The man is a stain on the sport.

And I'm proud of the West Ham fans support of the FA cup. We turn up in our tens of thousands year in year out, while other mickey mouse clubs can't be arsed.

1964 12:27 Sun May 14
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BFS is right

Bungo 11:05 Sun May 14
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Frankly I get bored watching a match usually involving the same few teams which will result in one of them winning something. A result I have no interest in.

At least league matches between the top clubs sometimes have implications for other teams. This is often the most interesting thing about the outcome of these matches.

Sniper 11:01 Sun May 14
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And jacks right, the fa cup final used to be a big event - I sued to watch all the build up but I barely watch any of it now.

I can't work out whether it's just because I'm older or because modern football really has squeezed all the romance out of everything. But it's also usually a shit game as well!

, 11:00 Sun May 14
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Twenty or thirty years ago this would not have been in question. Nowadays though when a game like the Championship play-off final is described as the richest in Europe you can see why clubs have changed their emphasis.

Sniper 10:59 Sun May 14
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I didn't see the interview, but much as I hate him, he is right. Look at Wigan

Much as I'd love an fa cup final victory, seeing the club succeed there but then go the way of Portsmouth, Wigan, she'd Wednesday, Fulham, Blackburn etc would be a bitter pill to swallow.

today is such an important game for both sides, it's almost like a play off final - the loser is in serious trouble. I fully expect sam to respect the point today

Bungo 10:58 Sun May 14
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BFS is a clever guy. He has carvde himself out a niche as the go to guy if you need to keep a team up. He pretty much owns that segment of the market.

Once in place, he has arguably a simpler job than a top team manager that has to get lots of positive results over a whole season to get a team into the top 4 or whatever their goal is.

If BFS can grind out a small number of wins (remembering that the teams around his are almost certainly struggling themselves), then he will have achieved his goal and no doubt earned himself a decent staying up bonus which the grateful owners will be happy to pay.

I am sure he will say whatever he thinks the fans of his current club will want to hear. Not many will want to hear that the manager thinks a forthcoming match is less important than one in the past. Plus his views on the FA cup are not exactly a revelation.

Spandex Sidney 10:57 Sun May 14
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jack flash 10:52 Sun May 14

Great point.

I just think it's a very sad state of affairs. Up until the 70's it seemed that the FA Cup was more prized than the league.

I'd love to see winning the FA Cup coming with the fourth Champions League place. Then we would see who fucking cared about it.

I fucking hate modern football.

jack flash 10:52 Sun May 14
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You can blame Manchester United for devaluing the FA Cup for the year they didn't take part, that & all the other commercial interests

I've got to admit I very rarely watch the final these days, where I used to watch every final, without fail

Roeder-nowhere 10:34 Sun May 14
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At least Billic did say he'd rather take silverware!! Fa cup instead of a CL place i think it was!

Ronald_antly 9:48 Sun May 14
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Mex Martillo 8:58 Sun May 14
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It was BFS throwing cup games that convinced me we had to get rid of him

geoffpikey 3:04 Sat May 13
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Obvious. And, sadly or otherwise, he's right.

Wigan Athletic. Anyone?

He didn't say he "threw" cup games, btw. Did he?

Feed Me Chicken 2:56 Sat May 13
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Totally depends who you are....

Chairman and directors then yes it's premier league survival due to the financial implications, Managers really should be saying fa cup but someone like BFS cares more about keeping the team up as he probably gets a tidy bonus for it.

Everyone else i.e players and fans should be saying the fa cup is far more important.

ajc123 2:55 Sat May 13
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The best managers are the romantic ones. No one was more romantic than Shankly and look at what he won. Everyone remembers Shankly, no one will remember Allardyce and a couple of near misses from relegation. The Italian managers are prized because they are philosphers too, they write memoirs that are articulate and they've won everything. Dickheads like Allardyce are the same as those 1920s and 1930s managers who didn't want to take part in European football and the World Cup because they wanted football played on mud, in snow with hard northern (crap) footballers. I'm pleased to say West Ham were part of changing that and it needs changing again.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 2:50 Sat May 13
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How can you blame the managers for not taking the cup seriously when the fans don't either? West Ham are actually a bit (a lot) of an exception, but attendances for FA Cup matches are now horrible.

Darby_ 2:45 Sat May 13
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Your job as a manager isn't to be romantic.

As Alvin says, it's how football has been structured these days. No point crying about how it's not fair that things aren't like they used to be. The FA, Sky etc set it up this way.

AlvinMartinAllen 2:28 Sat May 13
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Obviously due to the vast amount of money involved. Losing a cup final doesn't cost well over 100m in future loses, unlike a relegation decider.

Don't blame the managers or clubs, blame Sky and BT.

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